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So... avi's are a container format that can hold any number of codecs... so why can't avi's hold MPEG1 or MPEG2 encoded video? Also, MPEG4 is supposed to take more CPU power to decode than MPEG2... but MPEG2 won't decode without a hardware based decoder - if you do it with a software based one (i've only seen one), it'll play back even worse than MPEG4... why?

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Message # 1 21.02.24 - 14:30:36
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Theoretically it would be possible to create MPEG-1 or MPEG-2 AVIs, I guess. But you'd need special MPEG-1 / MPEG-2 Video for Windows codecs, and you'd need to copy the intermuxed audio stream to a separate auds stream in the AVI container (similar to DV type-2). Don't know if such approaches exist; probably not. bb

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Message # 2 21.02.24 - 14:41:39
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B-Frames have been around for ages in MPEG-1/2 & even D-Frames existed once upon a time (well almost :) ) Sigma had some ideas of there own once: & Avery Lee once said it was almost impossible to get MPEG into an AVI container (although ive lost the link where he said it). BFrames would be a real pain because the vfw interface only expects one frame in & then one frame out. Its also more difficult than normal formats because of the way the information is split over a MPEG stream (sequence headers, GOPS, etc) Slow MPEG-2 decoding is what made isibaar look into libmpeg2, he realised it was as quick to go from MPEG-4->MPEG-4 as it was for MPEG-2->MPEG-4 which he thought was crazy.... Cheers, -Nic ps Elecard's directshow decoder is very quick.... (& probably the best by far)

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Message # 3 21.02.24 - 14:45:53
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Actually, I think I found the link where Avery Lee said it... Thanks for the replies! :)

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Message # 4 21.02.24 - 14:57:17
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Actually Entymonix made a MPEG2 codec for AVI.

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Message # 5 21.02.24 - 15:01:20
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Spyder is right, here's the link if you want to try it: I tried it a while back, though, and it doesn't really fit the needs of the typical DVD backup: the bitrate averages out to like 20 Mbits/sec! It's more of a competitor to huffyuv and other lossless codecs used for video editing.

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Message # 6 21.02.24 - 15:12:21
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well, mplayer (which runs well also under cygwin32) can multiplex and demultiplex mpeg1/2 in avi: mencoder -oac copy -ovc copy -o file.avi file.vob Maybe it can be used as a basis for a VFW codec. Besides, mplayer would be a wonderful DS source filter, it reads almost everything :)

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Message # 7 21.02.24 - 15:18:44
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In fact mplayer uses libavcodec an ffmpeg as well as ffdshow. And ffdshow also implements mplayer's postprocessing. And yes, it's a wonderful DS filter ;)

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Message # 8 21.02.24 - 15:25:08
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MPEG1/2/4 will be natively supported by MCF, they will even get their own MCF Identifier. Dont ask me if it will be possible to make something like a MPEG2 'codec' with UCI interface quickly ( maybe based on ffmpeg code ), but for sure we will find a way to mux MPEG2 video data into MCF, like we do right now with MP2/3 audio already ...

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Message # 9 21.02.24 - 15:35:28
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An MPEG-2 codec for UCI shouldn't be hard. @ChristianHJW: I see you are reclaiming your position as head advertiser. ;)

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Message # 10 21.02.24 - 15:42:20
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