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PAL to NTSC (25fps to 29.97fps) help needed

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Hi all! I have noticed a bunch of way to convert from FILM to NTSC, NTSC to FILM, PAL to FILM and vice versa, but nothing (as I have seen) about PAL to NTSC directly. Since DVD players needs the 29.97 framerate in NTSC, I wonder what is the best way to do it. I have some AVI and MPG that I need to convert and resize to be in the compliant DVD format to do NTSC DVDs. For the avis, I have separate the audio in a wav file. I have opened CoolEdit, but I don't have a clue on which value to put in the stretch. And does VDub is good to adjust the framerate to 29.97 ? I just want to be sure to have the good "reciepe" since I have upcoming DVDs from France to convert this way too!! Thanx in advance guys!

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Message # 1 07.11.20 - 04:34:20
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First: Why do you want to convert? DVD players all over the world play NTSC and PAL without probs... If you want anyway, then the following works for progressive material: To convert, you first have to slow down the PAL source-WAV by 23.976/25.0 = 0,95904 x speed or lengthen it by 25.0/23.976 = 1,0427093760427093760427093760427 x time. Whatever applies in cooledit. Then change the framerate of the avi to 23.976. Then encode to MPEG2 ( using the avi and the slowed wav ) and set pulldown on playback, et voila, there you are ;) The only problem remains, if the PAL source is interlaced :( The only solution i know of is: First severely deinterlacing and the rest as above. But since you have AVIs, they should be progressive. Good luck. greetz, Uli

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Message # 2 07.11.20 - 04:38:59
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1) Change the framerate in VD to 23,976fps 2) Change the audio duration to: original length x25 /23,976 = new duration 3) encode to MPEG2/MP2 conserving the 23,976fps framerate 4) add the appropriate flag to your MPEG stream => perfect DVD quality! (I wonder, why Anime DVD authors have to telecine the video anyway, this makes quality only worse on the DVD, and makes our rippers life to hell!)

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Message # 3 07.11.20 - 04:45:40
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@Uli: Thanx for your reply! I am really new to this and I thought it wasn't possible to play a PAL DVD on my standalone dvd player! I don't have to do a resize on it (720x480) to make it standard? I know I will still have to set the DVD region free but it's not a problem in there huh ? @Uli and DJ Bobo : Thanx for your receipes :) I will try them right now! As for the conversion of the DVDs, I will set one region free and try to burn it as it already is, just to look :) Thanx again, I was really in the meadow with the cows I think! And you saved me lots of precious time! :sly: Ciao!

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Message # 4 07.11.20 - 04:52:51
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Great thanx Uli! But this PAL DVD will only work in my NTSC video if it is mostly FILM huh? Thanx :)

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Message # 5 07.11.20 - 04:58:18
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Ok guys.. Here's the infos of what I have did Movie info : 25fps, pcm audio 44khz, avi DivX-4 ;) Low-Motion (anyway!) 1- I have extracted the wav from the avi in question. 22:47.012 min. 2- Did a framerate conversion of that avi from 25 to 23.976 same length approx : 22:47:454. 3- Did all my resize and filters for that new file. same lenght too. 4- Took the extracted wav file, and here's my problem here.. I have 3 radio button choices for "Stretching Mode" when I click on Transform->Time/Pitch->Stretch ( in CoolEdit ) ->Time stretch (preserve pitch) ->Pitch shift (preserve tempo) ->Resample (preserve nothing) I have used the Resample. I have calculated the value length of my wav and it's 1367.012 seconds. So using the formula of 1367.012 * 1.04xxxxxxx, that gave me this : 1425.39xxxxx but instead of giving me an output file of this, it outputted me 1485.971 sec. that's approximately 1 min and 1 sec over the video file length! Did I miss something somewhere ?? Help please 'cause I am really not even familiar with CoolEdit and I will probably never use it instead of just removing noise and/or fix the good framerate audio! Thanx in advance!

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Message # 6 07.11.20 - 05:09:54
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About point 2: making the framerate conversion in VD will change the duration, it won't be the same or nearly the same. About point 4: you have to use Time Stretch. And if it's not time stretch, just experiment with a little file, till you get what you want :D (sorry I use WaveLab not CoolEdit, that's why I can't tell you exactly)

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Message # 7 07.11.20 - 05:18:42
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